I bought two before they went on sale, and they were very pretty, fairly full-leaved. When they went on sale, I bought two more. Both were dead. i got a refund, no problem, but it's frustrating to wait for two different orders and have them both be dead. When I called into the company, someone very rushed spoke to me. I felt as if I was bothering them. I had to go to a different company to get a living specimen. Pretty disappointing--I've had a lot of positive experiences with Hirt's before this spring.